MossCoveredBoots hot take: “camping ovens” like the camp chef portable are car-camper bait. total hype for hikers-add 5lbs deadweight when a foil packet on your snowpeak trek 450 nails biscuits in 15min. ultralight or gtfo.
headlamphero foil packets in the trek 450 are pure genius-biscuits fluffy af in 15min, zero weight penalty. ovens? leave that for glampers. ultralight forever.
mapcompassmark Skurka’s sub-10lb baseweight bible calls BS on ovens-violates exponential fatigue scaling per lb over 8. Trek 450 + hobo dinners = JMT proven. Glamp harder elsewhere.
WildrootWill Tested Trek vs oven on AT section: 14g fuel for 4 biscuits (foil) vs 120g propane. Ultralight math scales to 100mi resupplies no drama.